Orion Slavegirls

[attackfish]

Making fun of my dad’s Star Trek addiction is a weekend morning family tradition in my house, and it’s one of the reasons I don’t mind staying at home while I attend university as much as I might otherwise.  The food’s the other reason.  Anyway, Dad alternates between firing back that I’m one of those scary fanfiction writers, I’m just as obsessed with fantasy as he is with scifi, and then simply saying the words “Star Wars”, thus pointing out I don’t have a leg to stand on, or infuriatingly, agreeing with me.  The first tactic usually just ends up with dad and me reciting scenes verbatim from the original Star Wars trilogy until Mom kicks us both out.  This week, though, dad tried the latter, and he did it with coquettish hand gestures.

Dad: I am normally the planetary viceroy’s slave, but tonight, Captin Kirk, I’m told I’m to be your slave.”
Fish: Um.  Dad, are you… should I call…

When I managed to get over the extremely disconcerting sight of my father posing and preening like an unpracticed adolescent girl, I managed to fire off a comeback, and terrify my father.  That isn’t that hard; I’m a daughter after all.

Fish: I’m just amazed that with all these slave girls throwing themselves at him, he never did anything kinky.
Dad: maybe he didn't like kink. Didn't, doesn't, won't... what is the tense for scifi set in the future?
Fish: And getting it on with blue and green alien ladies isn't kinky?
Dad: Tell me when he ever had sex with a blue girl
Fish: I notice you didn't argue about the green ones.

From now on I can win any argument with my father about the relative merits of fantasy and scifi with two words, Orion slavegirls.  Funnily enough, he can win the same argument with the same words.

Comments

Re: Hey

[(Anonymous)]

Star Wars is something of a unique case in that certain aspects of the Expanded Universe Books are considered cannon by LucasFilm and other aspects aren't. It's safe to say that any official work is cannon (movies, TV Series, Etc) but when you get into any of the EU works it gets a little thorny because there really is no way to tell one way or the other.

Star Trek is a little more firm. Only official works released by Paramount are cannon unless specifically stated otherwise. None of the books are unless they are an adapted screenplay of a released work. (novels based on movies for instance) The Animated Series for example is considered non cannon and Star Trek V though it hasn't had it's cannon status revoked is largely ignored. Now parts of the Animated Series have been made canon by being referenced in a different official series but only the parts being specifically referenced are then considered Cannon.

In the end I feel the debate over Cannon vs Non Cannon is pointless. The fact is it's a fictional universe and we each take away what we will while discarding the rest. Some of us consider certain exceptional fan works as our own cannon, or fannon if you will. Until something comes along that specifically contradicts it or confirms it I'm content to have it my own little universe.

Re: Hey

[attackfish.livejournal.com]

This is why I never got deep into Star Wars fandom. It's a tangled mess, and there are a lot of not very good stuff that is as cannon as the brilliant original movies, and I just didn't want to deal with it. Harry Potter is nice and simple. If it came from JKR and she hasn't stated otherwise, it's cannon. Lit fandoms tend to be nice and compact that way.

Sam Storyeller (Copperbadge) is my fannon cannon for HP, and I'm considering including Drop Dead Gorgeous by Mistful in that category, because while I'm not a fan of H/D, it's just that hilarious.

I don't like engaging in Cannon vs. Non Cannon debates, I just like to watch from a safe distance and laugh.