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attackfish ([personal profile] attackfish) wrote2011-07-19 02:07 pm
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Bittercon: No Childhood Left Behind

As YA publishing expands and the internet connects readers from tremendously different backgrounds, it's no longer possible to talk about a "classic" set of formative first reading. How does our collaborative discourse on texts change when we have little in common among our formative reading experiences? And how do we engage with the often problematic heritage of our childhood favorites when no one we want to discuss them with has read them?

The above is the blurb for this panel at the 2011 Readercon, and after I read it, I was mystified. Harry Potter is the Beatles of my generation. When I was in middle school, you weren't anybody if you hadn't read The Golden Compass. Both school districts I went to middle school in assigned Speak by Laurie Halse Anderson. Everybody I knew read To Kill a Mockingbird and Lovely Bones. My best friend and I bonded over having both read Mercedes Lackey's Valdemar books. I only stopped being in the target audience for YA books four years ago, and even in the information age, that isn't that long ago.

More and more, YA books are becoming best sellers.  Twilight and The Hunger Games have readers in the millions. Talking about the fracturing of reader interest seems a little counter to the evidence.

At the same time that YA and MG publishing is growing, the internet is expanding exponentially.
The world wide web is vast enough that no matter what almost unknown book you fell in love with as a child, there is always someone online who fell in love with it too and would just love to discuss it with you. The blurb touches on this but only in the sense that it brings in new perspectives, people who might have read an entirely different set of books. To me, it was the place where I finally found people who shared my favorite book series (which just won the 2011 Mythopoeic Award for Children's Literature, go Megan Whalen Turner's Queen's Thief!).

What boggles my mind most about the above blurb is the blithe assumption that there ever has been a classic set of books that all children, or at least all bookish children read. We have always been divided by race, nationality, language, region, gender, genre, and taste. My avid readers of a mother and grandmother never read any of the books from their era that I consider classics (Except To Kill a Mockingbird), because they're just not into fantasy, and my grandmother was so turned off by the only Enid Blyton book she picked up that she decided that all children's books were worthless and I'm still convincing her otherwise.

I think the invocation of the internet as part of this new dilemma is telling. Suddenly voices that never had been heard, with their alternate childhood canons are being heard. They've always been there, it's just the people who did the public talking usually came from the same kind of background and were therefore exposed to the same books until now.

People who read the same books will always find each other, and we have always had to deal with people who have different canons of past reading. The community of readers will survive.

What are your experiences with the internet, individual canons, and the fracturing of reader interest? Fandom certainly complicates the matter at least for me, and a lot of you, but not all of you, dear readers are fannish. Is there a set of children's and teen books you would consider to be essential, and why?

Written for [livejournal.com profile] bittercon  the online convention for those of us who can't make it to any other kind, on a topic stolen from a panel at the 2011 Readercon.

[identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com 2011-07-20 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
I kinda got to say that as far as official fantasy canons go, I go with Tolkien, Harry Potter, and A Wizard of Earthsea (though not necessarily the rest of the series), and pretty much nothing else. There are other fantasy books I think are magnificent, and truth be told, I don't adore LOTR, but those three are so influential in the genre that I would advise reading them in self defense. I would also advise reading the Odyssey and the Epic of Gilgamesh

But I also think that when you (general you) become a fan of a genre, you do yourself a service by reading the works that defined that genre in the first place. That includes YA too.

This is a little different. What it sounds like they meant was "But children are reading different things than what I read!" with a hint of if you don't read certain books as a child, then when you read them as an adult it doesn't count.

I would advise adults to be cautious when giving The Catcher in the Rye to kids... I read it the day the addict in the family went into rehab, and it reminded me so much of him that I spent three days crying hysterically. This isn't an argument for censorship, just an argument that a book can be fine for one kid and deeply traumatizing to another, because of what the second kid has gone through.

[identity profile] amyraine.livejournal.com 2011-07-20 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
"This isn't an argument for censorship, just an argument that a book can be fine for one kid and deeply traumatizing to another, because of what the second kid has gone through."

I read CotR in high school and I thought it was appropriate for that age group. No younger, though.

This reminds me of the recent article, I believe it was in the Wall Street Journal, that lamented the dark elements in YA. I read a few rebuttals in blogs that said, to paraphrase, that teenage life was not all flowers and puppy-dogs, and YA lit should be a reflection of that. That young adults need to see their real life experiences reflected in the literature aimed to them.

I don't mean to deny or diminish your trauma, but I also think that when a book provokes a strong reaction like that, it's doing something right. It's speaking to difficult truths about human existence--in this example, about how mental illness can destroy lives and families when it goes untreated. (Counting addiction as mental illness, here.) Several in my family, including me, have struggled with mental illness. I want to see protagonists deal with the same things I have, even if it sucks and makes me cry.

It would be nice if books contained some kind of warning like those expected in fanfiction, that way someone who would be triggered could avoid that book.

[identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com 2011-07-20 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
I wrote one of those essays, and believe you me when I say I agree. On the other hand, kids also tend to have some kind of idea of what they can handle. I had to read this for class when I was twelve, so I din't get to make the choice. It's one thing to say "keep the dark books, because they can save" and another to tell a kid they have to read a certain dark book. Though I didn't have the words for it at the time, that book was triggering for me. So I don't like hearing that a book like that is essential to read to be well versed in a genre. It's a good, valuable book, but there should be no shame in not being able to read it.

I'm not sure how I should say this, given that I know I didn't express myself as well as I would like in the previous paragraph, but given what I have written on this blog about dark YA, I find parts of your reply incredibly condescending.

Thank you for counting addiction as an illness, by the way. So many people try to deny this, and denying it is the only way our legal system continues to justify putting addicts in prison instead of treatment.

I agree with you about warning labels, though I worry they'll be used more by adults trying to screen what their kids are reading than by kids themselves.

My essay, if you want to read it, is here: http://attackfish.livejournal.com/78197.html

[identity profile] amyraine.livejournal.com 2011-07-20 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
"but given what I have written on this blog about dark YA, I find parts of your reply incredibly condescending."

Crap. I'm sorry. I respect your opinion very much. I was trying to express disagreement without being offensive, spent a few minutes reviewing my response, and I still failed. Also, I was thinking 'older than twelve' in my choices although twelve is part of the YA demographic, so that's my bad. I'm sorry you were not giving a choice about reading Catcher when it disturbed you.

This seems to go back to your point about teachers thinking that because they read a certain book, everyone should read it. I agree that academics shouldn't have a stranglehold on what makes a book a 'classic', and also with your overall point that there is no one set of books that everyone must read. I voted for Catcher being 'essential' because I remember being told in class that it was a breakthrough novel for its time, doing things authors hadn't dared to do in a book with a teenage protagonist before then. That goes back to my question about fans of a genre reading early examples of that genre. But another book could fit that bill just as well.

Then I wonder, how can a teacher pick books to have the whole class read without triggering a student or running into other problems? One possible option off the top of my head would be to offer alternative books to meet the requirements and earn the grade, but then that eliminates the ability to discuss the book as a class (though maybe that's not a bad thing, I dunno). I'm not an educator, so I can't speak from experience. I'm not sure what a good solution would be.

[identity profile] amyraine.livejournal.com 2011-07-20 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
ugh, typo. That should say "given" in the first paragraph.

[identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com 2011-07-20 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
I really should have been clearer in that I would never suggest such books should ever be kept from kids, or offered. It's just forcing them on kids is a whole different ballgame. Of course, the pro censorship lobby talks about how we're forcing dark books on our young people too, and I'm left going "stop stealing my words! That doesn't mean what you think it means."

The problem with a single canon, or saying a book is essential, is that it means people who couldn't read it for whatever reason are held to be somehow deficient. When I wrote this post, I hadn't even thought of that.

After I moved, my new middle school combined the kids from all the classes in the same grade who couldn't or wouldn't read a specific book for assigned reading into one group, which usually had ten or twelve kids, and they got to choose from a short list what they would read together. While the rest of us read Speak, they read Stargirl. None of us were allowed to get out of reading Night though... And that'll traumatize anybody. Of course, that's the point.