Why is this even a thing? I mean, in what universe can the word "betrayal" apply to a) leaving a toxic relationship, and b) more specifically in this case, defending the lives of your family and friends from an aggressor? The worst part is, and I think the part that put you in all-caps mode, is that fireroyals kept calling Mai and Ty Lee's actions "betrayal" after you specifically pointed out that leaving an abuser (not to mention defending others from her) is not betrayal.
I'm sure fireroyals would say they were speaking from Azula's perspective, but if so they should have clarified that this is Azula's very warped viewpoint instead of endorsing it by generalizing, i.e. "When you are emotionally attached to someone and that someone betrays you, you feel hurt–to say the least." No. You do not cast an abuser's self-serving distortion of reality as an emotional experience that anyone can sympathize with. This is straight-up abuse apologia.
Also, gotta love the subtle gaslighting in implying that you can't accurately see and assess an abusive character because you were abused by someone very much like her. I mean, what would you know about abusers and abuse dynamics, you're only an abuse survivor! Isn't it hilarious how toxic Azula apologists' arguments are, even when they use all the right social-justice language? No, they'd never devalue an abuse survivor--except by telling her she has no idea what she's talking about, so sit down and shut up already! HAHAHAHA fuck that noise.
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Date: 2015-04-11 05:19 am (UTC)Why is this even a thing? I mean, in what universe can the word "betrayal" apply to a) leaving a toxic relationship, and b) more specifically in this case, defending the lives of your family and friends from an aggressor? The worst part is, and I think the part that put you in all-caps mode, is that fireroyals kept calling Mai and Ty Lee's actions "betrayal" after you specifically pointed out that leaving an abuser (not to mention defending others from her) is not betrayal.
I'm sure fireroyals would say they were speaking from Azula's perspective, but if so they should have clarified that this is Azula's very warped viewpoint instead of endorsing it by generalizing, i.e. "When you are emotionally attached to someone and that someone betrays you, you feel hurt–to say the least." No. You do not cast an abuser's self-serving distortion of reality as an emotional experience that anyone can sympathize with. This is straight-up abuse apologia.
Also, gotta love the subtle gaslighting in implying that you can't accurately see and assess an abusive character because you were abused by someone very much like her. I mean, what would you know about abusers and abuse dynamics, you're only an abuse survivor! Isn't it hilarious how toxic Azula apologists' arguments are, even when they use all the right social-justice language? No, they'd never devalue an abuse survivor--except by telling her she has no idea what she's talking about, so sit down and shut up already! HAHAHAHA fuck that noise.