attackfish: Yshre girl wearing a kippah, text "Attackfish" (Default)
[personal profile] attackfish
My mother's puppy, Daisy somehow bit my cockatiel, Sully through the bars of his cage, puncturing his wing and his body, and "de-gloving" his leg, which is to say removing all of the skin and rolling it down to his foot.  He is being cared for round the clock by the local bird vet, and may well not survive the night.  If he dies, he may lose his foot.  I sat there with him in the car while my mother drove with him tucked into my chest and just...  I'm terrified for him.  He's my baby.  I'm hopeful, because he started to perk up and come out of shock on the way to the vet, and headbutted me every time I stopped scratching his neck, but I really really could use some distraction right about now.

ETA: He survived the night, and when I went to see him, he chirped at me, and looked at me like, "Wow, last night sucked, Mom, can I go home now?"  The vet thinks he'll be fine, but she's not letting me take him home yet.  Unfortunately, the reason I was at the vet was because his mate, Archie, it turns out, had also been injured.  Daisy got her leg.  In the middle of the night, it swelled up, and she started biting at it, and when we uncovered her this morning, she had gone into shock.  The vet is not optimistic about her chances.  She was much worse off than Sully was, and I was terrified she was going to die in the car.  We now think Daisy got Archie's leg, and Sully and Beni (my lovebird boy) came over to defend them, and Sully was injured in the fight.  Beni has a bruised nare, and spent last night trying to feed Archie.  Archie is drinking apple juice and is being treated for shock, and the longer she lives, the more likely she'll come out of it okay.  All we can do is hope.

ETA2: Archie passed away.  Aparently, she also had head trauma from the attack, and was having seizures.  One of them killed her a few minutes ago.  She was six years old.

Date: 2013-03-19 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com
I don't necessarily see Aang as hedonistic, but he's far from the perfect monk. On the other hand, twelve year old boys =/= perfect monks. I wonder if as the last Air nomad, he ever feels guilty because he isn't the sort of Platonic ideal of an Air Nomad.

Oh yes, me too. I'm a metal worker and I train in martial arts, and that whole episode, I was like "years, this would take years, *sob*"

I have my epic trans* man!Zuko fic, so no comment. No comment at all.

I loved dream!Ozai giving Aang a math test.

We see an unnamed fire avatar bending lava at some point. I've seen it theorized that it doesn't like to respond to earthbending techniques and that it would have to be a specialized skill, like sandbending. Maybe Avatars, who have to know fire and waterbending would be better at bending hot liquid earth.

Bet she could if she were close enough. It seems like while she was perfecting it, she did much better if she were touching it.

I know nothing about Jak and Daxter.

As the Buddhist monk said to the sandwich shop, "Make me one with everything."

I think it requires clarity of purpose. She had clarity of purpose even at her most distraught.

Date: 2013-03-19 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chordatesrock.livejournal.com
I think that's a very good point. I bet Aang would feel that way. There must be a lot of angst involved in being the only survivor of anything, especially at twelve.

I loved dream!Ozai, period.

Interesting; that could be. It seems as if Roku should have been able to do something, in that case. Why couldn't he?

As far as Azula, that makes sense.

Date: 2013-03-19 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com
Oh yes.

He was old and weak and tired? He didn't know how? It was just too much to do it while the volcano was exploding around him? He was weak from breathing the ash and the volcanic gas? It wasn't the lava, but the other volcanic substances causing most of the problems? (it usually isn't the lava in real life) we don't know.

Date: 2013-03-19 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chordatesrock.livejournal.com
That makes sense now. I always wondered why he couldn't bend the lava.

What do you make of Teo's bandages?

Date: 2013-03-19 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com
I assumed they might be cosmetic, covering up horrible scarring, or something. I didn't give them that much thought, to be honest.

Date: 2013-03-19 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chordatesrock.livejournal.com
Couldn't he cover up horrible scarring with his pant legs? And why are they bandaged together?

Date: 2013-03-19 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com
Muscular atrophy, and he's using them to give his legs bulk? maybe the skin is sensitive and pants would move too much and chafe? Maybe someone in the art department got lazy about drawing them separate (which is probably the most likely, let's face it)? Maybe he has muscular twitches, and strapping his legs together hides it. Maybe thy knock against each other too much when he flies (though he really should also be strapping them down) maybe it got to be a pattern, and he just never stopped doing it after they healed?

Date: 2013-03-19 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chordatesrock.livejournal.com
His thighs are bulky enough to be proportional, but only his lower legs are bandaged, which could make sense if, say, Teo's disability is anything at all other than T12 paraplegia (which often seems to be the only disability ever shown in fiction, so I'm privileging the hypothesis that it's what the creators of Avatar meant). He's also wearing pants under the bandages. If he were doing it to keep them under control while flying, he wouldn't need to sleep with them bandaged, right? (Perhaps he's shown sleeping in bandages because in the same shot, he's sleeping in his clothes and could conceivably need to run soon, pun not intended.) Spasticity could be a reason, as could aesthetic sensibilities that prefer keeping his legs together (for the same reason that single center footplates exist, I suppose). I don't think it's artistic laziness; we never have a shot of them looking clearly separate, and they're clearly all one piece not only in the anime but also in the comics.

Date: 2013-03-19 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com
I thought of the muscular twitches because when my legs are going at it, the only way I get any sleep is to tie them together with my bathrobe. I didn't know he had pants under the bandages. This makes me more eager to say spasticity.

I got the impression his legs themselves were crushed. You're right, it's almost always a subset of spinal injuries in media representing all disability, and especially all wheelchair use, but before modern medicine got better at dealing with paralysis, people with paraplegia nearly all died of infections in the first year. Teo wouldn't have survived if he had paraplegia in the avatarverse.

Date: 2013-03-19 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chordatesrock.livejournal.com
I'm glad to finally have an answer, because this has been bugging me since he showed up.

I suspect the writers meant for it to be paraplegia, but I will never write it that way because it's so implausible. I've wondered whether Teo's disability isn't congenital; the Mechanist says he sustained injuries, but not that those injuries were related to his current wheelchair use. That said, if we assume he does have an acquired disability, Teo fits very well with Toph and Azula: we have disability acquired by accident, congenital disability and disability that simply happened by itself. (Similarly, we have mobility, cognitive and sensory disabilities represented, which work as broad categories, even though they're not perfect.) In fact, for a canon with so few disabled characters (especially considering the war going on), the show is remarkably good at hitting all the bases. There's disability that just is; there's blatant ableist oppression; and there's disability that contributes to the downfall of the PWD. And yet, somehow, I still want Teo's to be congenital and break the pattern. :(

If it is injuries, though, I think his knees are affected. Maybe it's the flat open spaces where he lives and the lack of tiny corridors where he might get stuck trying to turn around (which is probably great for Teo, as a wheelchair user), but his legs are very straight when he's in his chair, relative to what people usually do in real life. Knees are also a delicate and important part of the legs.

Date: 2013-03-20 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com
I thought it was to his knees too, and as you said, his chair keeps his legs straight. It seems like he steers a fair bit by leaning, and speaking as a kayaker, you need your upper legs for that.

I love that A:tLA just had disabled people in it, no bones made. I wish there were more war wounded around, but it did so much better than most.

Actually, I think Azula has brief reactive psychosis, so it didn't just happen. When she regains her faculties, she's going to make her brother miserable.

Date: 2013-03-20 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chordatesrock.livejournal.com
That would explain why his thighs look proportional.

I agree entirely with your assessment of A:TLA's treatment of disability. While watching the episode where Teo first appeared, I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop. I kept waiting for Teo to be objectified, or to be someone's Very Special Lesson, or, at least, to be used as an example of something (and I suppose he is, but it's very much in the background). Instead, Teo is just Teo, and it is unremarked on that Teo is not only part of his community but a well-respected part of his community. He's cool. He has his adoring fans. No one in-universe thinks this is odd. I can appreciate this better now that the episode is over and I can breathe again.

I assumed it was the onset of a lifelong condition like schizophrenia. I can never remember the characters' ages, and she doesn't seem... fourteen? to me, anyway, but she's not unbelievably young for that... I think. That would leave the most options open for fanwriters, since it's not unheard of for something like that to get worse, to cycle between better and worse, or to go away entirely. Luckily, canon is vague enough for writers to play with it however they want. >:)

Date: 2013-03-20 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com
I knew a girl who had fully developed schizophrenia at fourteen, so not unbelievably young, but she was very um, off, for a good long while before she started hallucinating, which I'm told is the norm. Also, schizophenia tends to flatten the affects of the people who have it. If anything, Azula went the other way. Plus, Azula's kind of the perfect candidate for an episode of Brief Reactive Psychosis. Not that I necessarily think the writers did that on purpose.

Schizophrenia isn't a chemical imbalance like a mood disorder. It's a degenerative neurological disease. It does not disappear on it's own, though other forms of psychosis can and do. Brief reactive psychosis on the other hand, comes on quickly following a situation in which someone's self image is stressed to the breaking point. Then, it resolves itself after a period of time, anywhere from days to months or more.

Date: 2013-03-20 05:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chordatesrock.livejournal.com
That's possible.

People have been diagnosed with schizophrenia and recovered fully or partly. There's one famous case where dialysis preceded and may have caused the recovery, although further studies on other people with schizophrenia got mixed results. (See Dialysis for schizophrenia: review of clinical trials and implications for further research (http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx?articleid=158199), for instance.) I remember finding a statistic, possibly on NAMI's website, saying that some single-digit percentage of people simply recovered for no known reason, but now I can't find it, and not for lack of trying. I also remember two autobiographies by people who eventually (after years of psychosis that got better and worse) recovered to the point that they could get on with their lives without worrying about it. A Google search turned up an article called Schizophrenia Prognosis (http://www.news-medical.net/health/Schizophrenia-Prognosis.aspx), but I have no idea how reputable the site is.

Somewhat relatedly, have you read terajk's post, So I wrote 1500 words on disability in Avatar: The Last Airbender (http://terajk.dreamwidth.org/104102.html)?

Date: 2013-03-20 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com
Single digit recovery rates to me say misdiagnosis. Hell, I was misdiagnosed with schizophrenia, and also with autism as a child. It happens not that uncommonly that different types of psychosis can be mixed up in a clinical setting. (I wasn't even psychotic, but the medical mismanagement of my childhood diagnoses is another story.)

I have, and I agree with parts of it. I do not like the way Azula's mental illness was treated, and I am on pins and needles to see her treatment in "The Search."

I do not feel like Toph and Zuko not having a field trip is in any way a flaw of the show. Toph was willing to welcome Zuko in, unlike, say, Sokka and Katara, never had to run from him, and had a number of adorable, touching moments with him. I also don't think Toph was there to "Teach a Very Special Lesson." I've seen a lot of those characters, and Toph doesn't fit it.

Also, you know my views on Zuko's rage and Ty Lee and Mai's reactions saying PTSD to me, and you bet your ass that's a disability.

Date: 2013-03-20 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chordatesrock.livejournal.com
Schizophrenia is a condition defined by psychiatry. Psychiatry is not currently able to diagnose people based on the etiology of their conditions (even those it has some ideas about the etiology of); it instead defines conditions based on signs and symptoms that tend to go together. I might be persuaded to believe that those symptoms are typically caused by a neurodegenerative disease but are sometimes caused by some other condition instead, and, if there were a way to tell which etiology it was, I would believe that schizophrenia should be split up to group patients with like etiology together. However, diagnosis being what it is, I would not agree that they were misdiagnosed. They were (presumably correctly) identified as experiencing the symptoms and exhibiting the signs that are used to define schizophrenia. When they start using brain scans for diagnosis, then we can talk about misdiagnoses of people who meet the DSM criteria.

None of this is meant to imply that people don't also misdiagnose things, or that they don't ignore illnesses or engage in any other malpractice.

I agree with you about the linked post.

Date: 2013-03-21 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com
This is part of what drives me so crazy about psychiatry (horrible wordplay is horrible). In the rest of the medical field, there is at least lip service paid to causes. Even when there is no known cause of a specific set of symptoms, the rest of the medical field at least makes a note that it's idiopathic (though they often don't do anything beyond that, grr). Not so with psychiatry, which in my opinion contributes to sloppy treatment. If this treatment works for someone with an illness caused this way, it could do nothing for the same symptoms caused by something else. It also contributes to the way we deal with and treat mental illness (and more broadly, the brain as an organ) as separate from illnesses of the body. Neurology comes closer to the approach I like, but neurologists are far to willing to write off a condition as psychiatric, and thus they don't have to deal with it (yeah, that happened to me a lot as a kid) when, perhaps a neurological understanding of the mechanism behind psychiatric illnesses would be beneficial to treatment.

Date: 2013-03-21 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chordatesrock.livejournal.com
Yes, and I'd go so far as to say that "mental illness vs. illnesses of the body" is a false dichotomy, not only because the brain is part of the body, but because there are many conditions that are both. Physical illnesses can cause psychiatric symptoms, mental illnesses can cause physical symptoms, etc. I think psychiatry could be better about a lot of things.

Date: 2013-03-22 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com
Oh yes, exactly. I'm pretty sure it comes from that old Christian dichotomy between the spirit and the flesh, that has become so much an unconscious part of Western thought. Not very scientific that. (A lot of people think when I attack different forms of modern science that I'm against science. No, I want it to be more scientific. I demand scientific rigor.)

Date: 2013-03-22 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chordatesrock.livejournal.com
I can see how it might come from that, but I think that's a misapplication of the theory.

Indeed, I often find that science fails at scientific rigor. This disappoints me.

Date: 2013-03-22 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com
Oh, I don't mean to say that anybody actually sat down and said "The mind is separate from the body because of the dichotomy of spirit and flesh!" I think it was just one more cultural bias that went unexamined as scientists went about conducting science and making theories.

Date: 2013-03-22 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chordatesrock.livejournal.com
Definitely.

I also dislike how people use the acknowledgment of this to imply that there can't be psychological causes that aren't rooted in physical illness. People's minds react to their environments, and those environments aren't limited to the chemicals they're bathed in.

Date: 2013-03-22 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com
This. It's not an either/or thing. Brain chemistry, other illness, structural neurology, and emotional experiences can cause mental illness. And you know what, a combination of the above can cause a single person's mental illness together. And emotional experience, for example, something that caused PTSD, can cause neurological and neurochemical changes that can contribute to further mental illness. Or the reverse can happen. It's complicated and nuanced, and uh, a lot of people don't deal well with complicated and nuanced.

Date: 2013-03-23 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chordatesrock.livejournal.com
Yes, and not only can those things also cause or alter the course of physical illnesses, but physical and mental illnesses can cause or contribute to each other (for instance, terrifying experiences with physical illness can cause emotional reactions that lead eventually to PTSD).

There's also the somewhat pointless attempt to draw some hard-and-fast line between "ordinary" emotional reactions and pathological ones. I think the dividing lines between Acute Stress Response, acute PTSD and chronic PTSD exemplify this. Imagine if physical illnesses and injuries were treated that way. Oh, you didn't actually rip that nail back to the quick unless it also gets infected. (I suppose some chronic illnesses do get treated this way. Subclinical hypothyroidism comes to mind as an example. I can't think of any injuries that are understood as not being real unless they're unusually bad, and injuries are more of a fair comparison with PTSD than illnesses.) It's pointless; how is someone who experiences symptoms for two months and twenty-nine days not mentally ill, but someone who experiences them for three months is?

Date: 2013-03-23 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com
I don't know if you read my post on the "Sickly Neurotic Geek" trope: http://attackfish.livejournal.com/102382.html but I talked a little bit about the process by which I developed some of my mental illnesses and how my seizures and immune disorder played a big part of that:

To make this trope especially painful to me, my geekiness, mental health issues, and illness are related, and part of the reason they are is ableism itself. First society made me fit a stereotype, and they it derided me for it. The idea behind the trope is that the geeky neurosis causes the “sickliness”, whereas for me, it was the other way around. There are two ways my illness led to my mental health issues, directly, and indirectly through the responses of people around me. By far the less important of these is the direct version. For a person with an illness like mine, where exposure to ordinary innocuous, common substances can cause severe injury or death, avoiding those substances is critical, and the mental effort spent avoiding such substances becomes habitual, and lends itself to developing OCD. Also, being at risk and unable to fully control that risk, leads to a certain level of perfectly reasonable anxiety, but our bodies and brains become used to that, and the anxiety can bleed over into non-illness related areas.

It's pointless; how is someone who experiences symptoms for two months and twenty-nine days not mentally ill, but someone who experiences them for three months is?

Our current psychiatric model doesn't seem to regard anything as a mental illness unless it's chronic. We're used to people getting ill and healing, but you're not mentally ill unless you don't heal or unless you take a long time to heal? Really?

(no subject)

From: [identity profile] chordatesrock.livejournal.com - Date: 2013-03-23 04:24 am (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

From: [identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com - Date: 2013-03-23 01:19 pm (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

From: [identity profile] chordatesrock.livejournal.com - Date: 2013-03-23 08:15 pm (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

From: [identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com - Date: 2013-03-23 08:29 pm (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

From: [identity profile] chordatesrock.livejournal.com - Date: 2013-03-23 08:45 pm (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

From: [identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com - Date: 2013-03-23 09:01 pm (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

From: [identity profile] chordatesrock.livejournal.com - Date: 2013-03-23 09:07 pm (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

From: [identity profile] attackfish.livejournal.com - Date: 2013-03-23 09:15 pm (UTC) - Expand

Profile

attackfish: Yshre girl wearing a kippah, text "Attackfish" (Default)
attackfish

July 2022

S M T W T F S
     12
3456789
10111213141516
17181920212223
2425262728 2930
31      

Avatar: the Last Airbender

Most Popular Tags

Style Credit

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags
Page generated Jan. 10th, 2026 09:39 pm
Powered by Dreamwidth Studios